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Paranoia
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 3:53 am    Post subject:  Subfactions? Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

My apologies if this is a stupid question... Can subfactions work with tiberian sun? I suppose i better ask this before i go off making art for a mod that will never work. I havn't come across any mods with subfactios are there any?

What i'm really asking, is that can you get more than six sides if you wanted them? and could you get the AI to work completely perfectly with them?

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gufu
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 4:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

No, you can just create a new faction... thats how i works for the engine - look at the Red Alert 2, same thing.

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Paranoia
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 5:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

i was wondering if the game couldn't handle over a certian number of sides, or something like that.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 5:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

you can have two Nod houses. side=nod. an give them similar style and stuff etc. so it is possible, but its just a pain. you get NCO errors and run into other issues...I recommend its not worth the all the work and hassle to do.

I mean if you want to mod, utilize what you have than try to bashing your head against hardcoding. I mean a two sided mod can be tons better than wasting your time on thousands of subfactions, 4 houses, 3.5 sides.. and 2.75 teams..etc. #Tongue

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Paranoia
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 5:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

you've got a point. I just see subfactions as a good way to get more units and diversity into the game while not giving one side four different tanks to choose from. etc...

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Team Black
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 5:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

TS: RO will have subfactions, each with their own loading screens thanks to TShyper Smile

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djohe
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 5:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Paranoia this is one of the cases where you should move your mod to Redalert2 / Yuris Revenge instead.

Tiberian Sun cant handle more than 2 sides properly and you cant use countries like you can in Redalert2/YR.


Hey Team Black does that also apply to the EVA/cabal voices and sidebar?
If so I hope that TSHyper applies this patch to ETS and TS2.03 for the rest of us also

(I use ETS for my mod)

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Ickus
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 5:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

yea. I agree is just the engine doesn't support that as in RA2, so if you really want subfactions..go with RA2.

but don't change that unless it is worth it. I mean you can play around with prerequisites and stuff, maybe make those extra tanks as bonus units in crates or buildable for capturing a certain building... , its just the NCO bug is bound to occur. Obviously you can replace the sound effect..or comment it out. Wink

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CCHyper
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Its a shame TS does not support the Side key well, or we would not have this problem.

And yea, I did manage to add loading screens for each house, and i dont think the game has a limit. Perhaps i should fine a way to make it much easier.

Sidebars and EVA speech i dont know how to do yet, and i cant see how VK did it, perhaps i will ask him...

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